Serving an audience as a catalyst for growth, with Sagi Schreiber

Welcome to Amplify the Personal Brand Entrepreneur Show. Today on the show, Bob is speaking with Sagittariiba. Make a list of what are the things I value in life. Let me just give you a hint. You should value yourself first. But for me, it's like my physical and mental health, then it's my family divided by my kids and my wife, and then it's my business. I already said to myself, I'm a family first entrepreneur. Family first. But what's his family first entrepreneur to do? He doesn't keep his own mental and physical health. One day it's going to get sick. And to not be a father, to be a family person or the business would die. Whatever. Hi there and welcome back to Amplify the Personal Brand Entrepreneurship. My name is Paul Gentle, and every week I'm joined by amazing people who share what makes their business work. If you've just hit play, then before you go any further, don't forget to subscribe. And if you're listening on Apple podcasts, it's the plus icon or the Follow button at the top of the screen. That way you won't miss a thing. Now, before I jump into introducing this week's guest, just a quick reminder that after nearly 200 of these interviews, I've learned a thing or two about what makes business work online. And it turns out that success does live clues. And I want to offer you the map. So if you jump over to my website, you can grab your copy of my Personal Brand Business Roadmap. It's everything you need to start scale or just fix your personal brand business. So this week's guest is, I'm going to say a mentor of mine is somebody whose work I follow a lot, somebody personally I look up to a lot because he's probably one of the most disciplined and productive people I know. He runs three businesses and he'll tell you about those. But this week, Saggy Schreiber, welcome to the show. Yeah. What's up, Bob? Thank you so much for having me on the show. No, honestly, it's my pleasure. And this is really my opportunity to pick your brains because discipline and mental toughness are two things that when I think of saggy shrimp, these are the words that make you stand out. And I've been looking at some processes in my business and trying to level up this year. And what I'm finding is when you want to level up from a practical perspective, something else has to level up as well. And one of my previous podcast guests, she used a phrase I'll never forget. Your business will grow when you grow. And a lot of people listen to something like that, and they think information, they think knowledge. But it's much more than that. If you want to play bigger, you need to be bigger. And this is really what I want to talk about with you today is how we can bring a bigger game. Be bigger. Definitely. You know, you know what I'm talking about? Yeah. I love this topic because it's what I'm most bullish about right now. A lot of people are talking about the Metaverse and NFDS. Right. That's the whole vibe right now. But he's talking about in business and personal branding. People are talking about the methods and the tactics and the social media and everything like that and the channels. We had a discussion about that as well. I mean, it's important, right? But at the end of the day, the thing that is most important is not that metaphors, it's your inner verse. And that's what I'm really keen on, understanding my own universe, my own world, and improving myself. Because what I noticed in about five years of business, of putting food on the table and growing business, is that no matter what struggle you go through, because we all go through adversity and so much struggle, each one of us has their own things. I mean, we both have kids, right? For me, I have like three small children under the age of nine, and one of them is like one year old. And the whole struggle with having kids and three businesses and everything that's going on. And we all want to be great human beings. We want to be great partners and we want to be great parents and we want to be great entrepreneurs. And everything comes together and clashes a lot of the time. So how do we keep ourselves from overwhelming and how do we keep ourselves basically functioning at a very productive vibe? First of all, the understanding of this, the understanding is that when you do the work on you, then your business will flourish as well. We tend to think we need to work on the business. And they're saying don't work in the business, work on the business. I say effort, work on yourself. And yes, work on the business for sure, but work on yourself first. And that means also putting your first in top priority. So I don't know which way you want to take it, but we can talk about a lot of topics based off of just that. Well, let's talk about something really simple. And I think we only have so many hours in the day. Everybody's busy, right. Some people are very wasteful with their time, and others have really optimized that time. And the only way that they can find more margin is sometimes getting up a little bit earlier. There are books like Miracle Morning, Numerical Morning. Robin Sharma has got the 05:00 A.m. Club. There is a movement towards getting up early in the morning, which in the evening sounds like a great idea, but in the morning it doesn't sound like a great idea. So how can somebody who is very comfortable in their life and there's no burning pressure? My business is not falling apart. If I don't get up at 05:00 A.m. In the morning, there are no consequences for me. But I know if I want to play bigger I'm going to need to be bigger in this instance in the morning. So how could somebody like me train myself to be better in the morning? All right, so here's the thing that is probably going to shock you and I don't know how much you know about okay, so I'll start from the end. I don't wake up at five in the morning and to tell you the truth, I don't even wake up at six. I try to wake up at seven and the reason I do that is because I had a morning routine. But when my baby was born right now in sleep this night, we have a period right now where my baby? She wakes up and I call her my baby. She's one year and four months old but she was very cute. We've been calling her baby for a long time. Yeah, that's the youngest one. And she wakes up from 09:00 p.m. To twelve like midnight. She wakes up two to three times crying. So we're around her and then by midnight she falls asleep. I go to sleep at around midnight or whatever and I just want to get my 7 hours of sleep in. Sometimes we wake up in the middle of the night for her as well. So I know my sleep is not at the best state it's at. So we have periods in our lives where morning routines just don't freaking work. So for me what I did is I made sure I have a morning routine for a second dividing like separating the hour which you wake up in the morning to the morning routine. So I'm saying like having a morning routine is crucial is important for me. It's like I don't see any other way to succeed but waking up for me right now, I prioritize sleep and I call them my nine to twelve club where right now I don't work from 09:00 A.m. To twelve noon I don't work. Sometimes I make it a bit shorter because maybe I start at 830 or whatever but basically like 3 hours where I go to exercise, I take a shower, I eat properly, sometimes I meet with friends that I don't have other ways to meet or other time to meet with because of my busy life. But it's mostly taking care of me. And why not? Just because I wake up at seven straight to get the kids ready for the whole rush to get them to school and everything. And then by about 830 I come back home, I take the dog out for a walk and then I start my day. So my nine to twelve club is the way for me to make sure I still get sleeping because it's just as important as starting your day, right? You cannot start your day, right? If you don't get a proper sleep and you cannot get anywhere without proper sleep and right now, I know my sleep is not proper at all. So I'm trying to get it to the point where first of all, dividing that morning routine from the sleep thing, making sure I get enough sleep. And I think that's for a lot of people, it might make sense right now because a lot of people are like, I don't want to wake up in the morning because I stay up late for me. Also, by the way, I have planned from the United States. So at least twice a week I'm on phone calls until late. So again, I can't really make sure that I wake up. I go to sleep by 09:00 p.m.. So once we divided it now, let's talk about the morning routine for a second. Most people and there's a statistic about it. I don't know the current statistics, the specific one, but most people have their heart attacks in the morning. So like most heart attacks that happen happen in the morning, specifically, by the way, in the UK, I think that's the highest rate. So why is that? It's because in the morning everybody starts their fires, right? Everybody now is like, oh my God. And this and that. We need to do this, we need to do that. There's a lot of also early risers. I don't know about you. I'm getting messages from my accountant and my personal assistant at 830 in the morning sometime and this can be stressing, hey, we need to pay this much tax. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Like, dude, it's 830 in the freaking morning. You don't stress people out like that. Especially people like me who come from a background of not managing my money correctly. And I remember phone calls from the banks at this hour that turned my stomach over. So right now I opt out of this shit like 100%. I put myself up front and I say, this is my life. So I'm going to do me and I'm opting out of everybody else's agenda until twelve. And you know what, if you have something very pressing, something very urgent, and I need to call someone, I might give them a call about ten when I'm finishing my exercise and I'm on the drive back home or something like that, just for about ten minutes. I might do that. But Besides that, that's it. I'm really doing me that's one thing. Now back to waking up early. I did have periods where I woke up early and it wasn't all fun. But again, that sense of like beating the sun up, I think rent car don't talk about it a lot. It's like that feeling of like I beat the sun up. Just do stuff that makes you proud, competitive for me. Yes. I'm not the best person to talk about waking up early because again, I'm not a morning person. But when I did have times where I woke up early, I felt great. And that sense of peace where nobody's even awake or nobody really will. My accountant might Ping me at 08:30 A.m., but it will not Ping me at 630. So it's like nobody is there to bug you. The kids haven't woken up yet. My wife doesn't wake up for me. It's a lot of period. I think what you've described there is in your situation, in your time of life, you've shifted that morning routine into what most people would consider to be the work day. And that in your situation makes perfect sense. But it's still been created with some discipline and you stick to it. And I think that's really the sticking to something that you can have an idea, you've been creative, you've now resolved to do something and it happens. This is where I see a lot of people fall down. It's very easy to be creative. It's very easy to generate ideas, but then the execution is either hit or miss or sporadic. But that commitment to allow the compounding effect to kick in over a period of time never happens. So how do you either yourself or if somebody comes to you as a client and says this is my issue, I'm finding it difficult to be consistent. How do you help them work towards that consistency? I love that question. And it's a great question because I do have clients, some coaching clients that are struggling with this thing. But I'll tell you, one is a process. I also went through a process, don't beat yourself up. I think it's the first thing for me. There's also a lot of things that I've tried to implement, habits that I try to implement that the most important thing I learned over time is not to beat myself up if I don't get to it, but to say tomorrow is another day, but not let myself too much go on with this. Tomorrow is another day. Just let it go, but say, okay, I haven't done it. I'm kind of looking at myself in the mirror. This is the hard truth saga. You haven't done it today, but don't worry, tomorrow is another day. So kind of like having that patience on one hand. On the other hand not giving yourself some slack. They say tomorrow you're going to do it. And you know what? Sometimes I can't do the realization where I don't do it the other day. Some of my habits that I try to implement, for instance, daily meditation. I'm still not meditating daily, although that was on my agenda for the past couple of years. But I came to a realization one day after like a month of trying to implement it, that maybe I have the benefit of not meditating every day. Like for me, maybe I'm not doing it because I value other things more than the meditation daily. I value meditation, but maybe not daily. So I kind of took it out of my kind of like need to do it every day. And now I don't do it every day, and I'm completely fine with that. I would love to do it every day. I know it will get me farther, but I have a lot of other things to work on, and I'm working on those as well. So the most important thing is the hack. And that's something very practical. I'm trying to think of the practical things to give to your audience here. Measure yourself. Make a list. If you have a pen and paper and you want to write it right now, make a list of what are the things I value in life. Just make that list. When you put those things up, let me just give you a hint. You should value yourself first. But for me, it's like my physical and mental health. Then it's my family divided by my kids and my wife, and then it's my business. I used to value my I already said to myself, I'm a family first entrepreneur, family first. And I was priding myself in being family first. But what's the family first entrepreneur to do if he doesn't keep his own mental and physical health? One day is going to get sick, and there would not be there would not be a father to be a family first entrepreneur or the business would die or whatever. So I say I know I should ruthlessly follow this core value of physical and mental health, and that's on the top of the priority list. And then one day I looked at my calendar. So the first thing to do is to make a list of the things you value in life and then prioritize them on the list. Just you roll a list, right? Get another piece of paper and write it in priority. The one on the top is the most valued thing in your life right now. And that's the thing that now is the next phase, which is go and look at your calendar. If those things that you value are not on your calendar, what are you doing? So your calendar is a complete reflection of the values. So if your calendar does not reflect the values that are in your life, then you are living out of integrity. If you're living out of integrity, there's nothing you can really get down or you cannot grow. So you need to make sure, first of all, you get to a level where you're living on a level of integrity. You're being proud of who you are. You're proud of being the hero of your own journey. By the way, a new book just came out by Donald Miller. You probably read Story Brand, right? Yeah. Amazing book. I'm nodding. Forgetting that we're doing an audio show. There's a new book called Hero on the Mission. Basically, that's exactly what he's talking about. And being the hero of your own story. That's what I was like having in my mind for after storytelling became a part of my business. I said, storytelling is also for life. How am I going to be the hero of my own story? I write my own story. That's how we write our own story. So if our candor do not reflect our values, then we're missing out on everything. So I have time in my calendar for my kids. I have time in my calendar. That's the point where I looked at my calendar back then. It was the beginning of 2020, actually 2021. Just a year ago, almost. And I was in a terrible, terrible situation. Man, I don't know if you know this, but I was sued. Did I tell you about it? You did tell me about that. Yeah, I remember. You did not look like a healthy person. No, I was sued by troll, by the way. I did not do anything illegal. I just was sued on my email list. It can happen to anyone. Just someone who should be a lawyer. But he's not actually finding a normal legit job. It's just suing small companies, finding the small things in between the law. And so someone sued me. I had another client in my agency gone bad, and I never heard clients gone bad. Specifically, this client was an attorney. So it was just like, a really, really bad. Nobody needs outcome. We don't do development anymore. But back then, we did development and the developer, she was a new developer, and she wiped his website completely, like, on production. Anyway, a lot of things went wrong with this project, and I took responsibility for it, obviously. And I was just feeling a really bad feeling like, oh, my God, how did I get to a position where one contacts gone wrong, and every day at 10:00 P.m., I'm getting an email, another email from him, like, you're wasting my time. I shouldn't have worked with you. Stuff like that. How did I get to a position where someone saying, I can't believe I'm working with you, and then another person is freaking suing me? And so much stress and working. I never talked to lawyers, ever, really. And all of a sudden, I'm talking to a lawyer and preparing a defense document and all this stuff and going to court, and then it felt just, like, so stressful. And I wasn't sleeping at night at all. The baby just was not sleeping at that period. She was just like, she was not even one year old, and she was just, like, not sleeping. I think that was one of the worst periods in my life. And for those couple of months, I had a couple of other things happened to me, which were kind of just situations where like, oh, my God, everything happened between January to March, and things that really helped me is my personal development routine. Like I said, okay, I'm going to double down whatever I need right now for my health. I remember I said to myself, like, okay, mental and physical health first, and the physical will help the mental. So I went and double down on my workout, and I went and I meditated more, and I put information on my screen. This is, by the way, my vision. You see a lot of stuff on my iPhone right now. This is my iPhone lock screen right now. It's a bunch of stuff. It's like my vision sheet. But basically I put affirmation saying it's all happening perfectly. That was kind of like my affirmation. Everything that's happening right now in your life is something you manifested and something that also is coming to teach you a good lesson in life. And so when March came and I overcame that guy in court and I also fixed everything for my client, and I really came out on top. I looked back and like, okay, okay, what's going on? What can you do now? And what can I do now to keep my mental and physical health in the right position? I looked at my calendar and I thought, there's nothing for workouts in my calendar. And I think that's how most of us live. We don't have workouts. We just do it when we can. Right. It's not a thing in our calendar. It's not a work thing. Like, why should we have it in our calendar? So in March, I just took my calendar. I booked out a recurring event every single day. Nine actually was like eight even to twelve, just nothing on my account. Nobody can book any meetings with me, and I can book for myself as well. And since then, I've been doing it. And I can't say it was perfect. Some days I missed out. Right. But at the beginning, it was very hard. But I eventually started talking to my clients, and when I mentioned that to my clients, even though I don't work from nine to twelve, they're actually on board with it. They're really inspired by, oh, my God, this is great that you're doing it. It's really cool. And I think that's something that I pride myself in doing as well. It's something that goes against the common norms. Right. And it's not that I even work more. I don't I actually work less. I don't work more work hours because of that nine to twelve. It's actually part of my freaking work day. I work less. And the worthless thing is something I figured out when I did 75 hard, which is a mental toughness challenge, which I really recommend everybody to start with or do, if you can. I tried it. I was on there for about a week or two weeks or something like that. And you fell off. And let's say you didn't try again. Not yet. Okay. So when I'm doing 75 art again, I'll reach out to you and we're going to do it together. It's just amazing. The thing that I got from 75 heart is at the beginning, like, the first two weeks are really hard. That's why most people so for the listener. Just what is 75 hard? Okay, so 75 hard is something I did in 2020 just before Coveted. I started it in January 2020. It is a mental toughness challenge created by it was designed by Andy Fraser, who is an amazing entrepreneur. He's a very tough dude. Kind of like some people love him. Some people hate him for the way he speaks, but he's a tough guy, but he's a very successful entrepreneur. I love this guy for what he represents. And he created this challenge, which is not a fitness challenge, but a mental toughness challenge. But it has like all like, different activities that you have to do every single day for 75 consecutive days. Here is the five things. One, you have to have two workouts a day. So the two workouts have to be separate and they each have to be minimum of 45 minutes. And one has to be outside. No matter the weather. The workouts can be also walking. You don't have to run for 45 minutes, but it can be walking as well. But still, 45 minutes times two. One has to be outside no matter the weather. So that's 1 second thing is you have to drink a gallon of water every day. That was one of the hardest for me. Just because the amount of time I had to go pee in one day, it was just crazy. You don't think about it. You're just like, oh, I'll just drink a lot. It's healthy. Yeah, that's you on the plane with that gallon. So I'll never forget. I came to the UK and just like the plane was delayed. So we're sitting on the plane and they told us we can't take our seatbelts off. Just sitting and waiting to take off. My God, please take off. I really got to go. So anyways, 75 hard, we said two workouts, one gallon of water. You have to read ten pages of any personal development book a day. It should be any book that teaches you something new. It's not a fiction book. And then you have to take one progress. Take a selfie, basically. And the selfie is for you. You don't have to publish it online. You can definitely just have it for your own sake. And you don't have to publish it anywhere. But it's meant for you to later see the progress that you made, like how your body changed and how your expression changed and what this does when you do this. Everything, by the way. Also another thing, you have to choose a diet and stick to it with no cheat meals at all. And you cannot have anything that is bad for you. Meaning like you can't have a cake or anything like that and you cannot have alcohol. So, yeah, if you drink casually, no more drinking for 75 days. And you can have that nice birthday cake when you go to a birthday or if you go to a wedding or whatever, now everybody's going to enjoy it and you're going to set aside and be disciplined and not touch it. So that's the kind of really hard things that kind of I can say almost broke me a couple of times. Also when my kids had birthdays and stuff. Yeah. None of them are individually ridiculously tough. Collectively, it is a very big Hill to climb, right? By the way, I broke down like day 25. I fell off and I wanted to quit. And luckily for me, I had my previous mentor, Kevin Wayman, and I called him and I was like, bro. And Kevin did 75 hard. I said, I want to quit, man. And he's like, you're not quitting. I'm like, Man, I've been to the army enough of this shit. Like, I know what I'm doing. It's so cool. I don't need 35 hours. And also I was feeling like I'm working on this thing. It's like 3 hours a day. You are working on this challenge because it takes time to read the ten pages of the book. It takes time to do the exercises. It takes a toll on you. It's a lot of time investing in preparing for the exercise, showering later, whatever you need to do. It's not just 45 minutes. It takes time. I told him like this, and I'm quitting. And he's like, you're not quitting? And he's like, what did you fall off, Sage? What did you fall off? And I said, the selfie. I did everything. I did the exercise. I drink a gallon of water, I kept my diet, and I just didn't take a selfie. I forgot the freaking selfie. And whenever in this challenge, you go, you fall off on even one of these things. Even if you read nine pages instead of ten or whatever, you have to catch yourself and go back to day one. And that's the whole thing about it. If you fall off at any time, you go back to day one. I told him I found a selfie, and he said, well, have you ever had that in life for business where those small things you did all the big things, everything was great. But those small things, minor things you missed, and they completely messed you up. And I was like, oh, my God, yes. It's so true. So 75 hard. And what you fall off on or what is the hardest for you, sometimes it's a reflection of your life and business. And the thing about 75, once you do it, it's a transformation of discipline, of self esteem, of the way you think of yourself, of knowing that you kind of it's another win for life. It's something that you've done. I want to tattoo myself on Santa Fe. I'm not doing it right now, but I feel like I really want to get a tattoo standing for because I feel I did something very hard. And I found out the most stressful thing for me at the beginning was the 3 hours. Like I'm saying, I'm not working in my business enough. And then I noticed over time that my business grew in 2020 like crazy. So I learned that even if you work less, you grow more if you do some of the work on you. So you go inside, you do the work on yourself, and then your business external situation, everything kind of correlates because you're in better energy. You have better calls with your clients, even potential clients that could have said no because of your energy. Now say yes, you're more alive. Everybody around you is witnessing you and inspired by you and want to work with you. You are making better decisions because everything is clear in your head. So everything kind of correlates. And I think there's another spiritual aspect of it, Bob. I don't think we ever talked about it, but I think there's a spiritual aspect of manifestation. So when you're in a state and operating and higher vibes in the world, I believe that manifestation happens quicker. So you manifest the things that have attraction and how it works. You manifest the things that you say you want in your life. They just come to you. You start attracting more rather than trying to grab. I think, without even needing to get particularly sort of woo around the law of attraction. I've looked a little bit at this and there's an awful lot of convergence around you. And I used to hearing with the law of attraction and where quantum physics is currently arriving, this is not really fringe. This is sort of what you would call high physics that a lot of physicists aren't even there yet. But no, I totally agree with you on that. Yeah. And just do like one point on that as well. I mean, I can talk about it for hours, but one point is one recommendation for book Levels of Energy. If you haven't read that Levels of Energy is a great book representing a scale from zero to 1000, about frequency and what frequency people operate on. So basically the 50 to 100 is like crime and you feel like angry at the world. And 100 to 200 is like you're breaking out of the you're starting to understand there's a world out there that you can conquer. 200 to 500, whatever, like entrepreneurship route, personal development route, whatever. You get there with coaches and help and stuff like that, training 500, you start attracting, you start working less, attracting more. 600, 700 is already like bliss. And so there's like these levels of energy. And I really believe in it. And now like that also, I just heard started hearing an audible here on a Journey by Donald Miller, which is a great start of the book. He's talking about exactly the same thing. He's just not talking about the levels, but he's talking about you. Start by there's a couple of characters, there's the victim, there is the villain, and then there's the guide and the hero, or basically the levels are first of all, villain like, right, 50 to 100 victim, 100 to 200. Then there's the hero who starts operating at 200 until about 500, 600 when it becomes the guide. The guide is like the one that can help the people, ring them up and attract everything to them already. So I love that. And I think it's very, very true. I'm going to have to go and read both of those. So one thing we haven't really spoken about at all, and this is just sort of what I would expect from your generous spirit. We haven't talked about what your business does at all. So for the listener, what does your world look like outside of personal development and all that good stuff? I see myself as an entrepreneur and business owner, but also I came up as a designer. So most of my life I've been working for startups. I was in the tech scene. I was the first designer at Fiverr, not in the marketplace, but working on the marketplace with the founders. I was the first designer there. And then I had my start up. We got acquired by a similar web, which is another start up. And then after that I went solo and worked on my blog and launched my agency. So right now what I have is Rocksville design blog where I monetize that I have online courses and one course that is a physical class twice a week. I just brought in external lecture to help me and basically he's taking half of it, I'm doing half of it. So I'm still teaching that class, but I have online courses as well. And people buy packages. I do trainings. With the blog comes everything. Like people companies ask me to do trainings for them. It's a design blog, so it's like design trainings and stuff like that. And then that's the blog as my agency, the agency is called Contrast two X, and we do user experience design for startups. We work with small startups just beginning that just got capital. We also work with very big startups. For instance, Fiverr just released a new feature. It was on Tech Crunch and all the big publications. And for that feature, they called me to come and do the workshop with them to crack the concept. So big startups call me out to crack concepts, and smaller startups call me out to work with my designers and my team because we accompany them as product design teams throughout time. The second one, the third one is Commit First, which is my podcast, my brand, like about personal development and spiritual growth for entrepreneurs. And that's why I'm right now developing this as a tech company. Actually, I've been taken in by the whole web, three kind of thing going on and the metabolism thing. I got myself an Oculus a couple of months ago, and I was just blown away by the experience. And I said, Man, I want to create that experience. I'm already working on an app right now in development. It's called Affirmations Go. It's going to come out in about two months. I just got the first version yesterday. They sent me a test flight and playing around with it. It's an app for Affirmations. So basically I'm building like a system of apps for personal development and for doing the inner work things that I need for myself and that I'm working with myself on. I'm just building the apps for them. And also I want to create immersive experiences like guided meditations and visualizations and working on manifestations and stuff like that, but in the Metaverse and in VR environment. So imagine yourself. You can just go to instead of sitting down quiet. You can also just put your Oculus on in one moment. You're in a beautiful scenery, a Zen garden or whatever on the top of the Himalayas. You can just meditate and get like a guided meditation to help you manifest your biggest dreams. I think this is going to change lives. And that's why I took commit first to kind of starting working on Tech. We got investor interested already and stuff like that. So it's a big operation. What I'm saying, it's not just the YouTube and the podcast and stuff like that. It's not becoming way bigger. I have a partner with multi millionaire and we're not getting capital, so it's going to happen soon. So what's going on? Yeah, and three kids. What I find particularly exciting about VR is I've dabbled with it a little bit, but just with almost like the Cardboard experience, the Google Cardboard. And what's really interesting and this is why I'm excited for you, is the physiological responses to VR are exactly the same as the physiological responses to if you are actually doing whatever it is you were experiencing in VR. And unless you've experienced some form of virtual reality, you don't understand that. And that's why I'm excited for your VR, because this is the first time you're telling me a lot of people struggle to achieve very much in meditation. But if you can bring them an experience that stimulates that physiological response. Exactly. That's actually really exciting. Yeah. That's the beautiful thing about it. And there's already a great app that does it. By the way, if any of you have Oculus, it's called Trip with app. Trip does it's more psychedelic, but it's really good meditation experience. So I have a boxing game, man. You should be innocuous. I think everybody now should be an Oculus. First of all, it's pretty cheap. It doesn't cost already so much. But just to understand where it's at right now, if you like, compared to Cardboard, plead different experience about this boxing game you put on the Oculus, all of a sudden you're in a match. There are people cheering around you, and you're looking and you're hearing them cheer. And the big guy in front of you full of tattoos, is coming to attack you. And every time he punches you, you feel that your handles, they vibrate, and you really feel in the fight, I put on a couple of people that don't have any experience in fighting, and they're, like, adrenaline pumping. They became red. They were just like it's trying to fight. Once they took their Oculus off, they're like, oh, my God, blood rushing fast, and it's crazy. Yeah. I think a lot of people don't understand. And this is why I think people like you and I on shows like this will be discussing VR more and more, because with full fiber becoming a thing for people and the processing power that's becoming available to us now, the world is changing. It's going to be like the difference between when you could get an AOL CD on the front cover of a magazine, and now it's going to be that different. Yeah. There's a whole new Internet coming, and it's much closer than people realize. Yeah. Also, NFDS are going to change a lot of the things we look at. So I'm very excited about everything that happens with this new technology, although just be careful. Everybody out there. This creates more formal, more overwhelmed. You really have to watch yourself. Don't be swollen in a way that you're feeling foam all day. And this is really, really important. I have one guy on my writer, like a designer, a very famous designer. He was hospitalized because he got so excited about it. Tried to create an MP project and stress to come under. So be careful. Yeah. And I think, again, this is why being intentional about cultivating your character is just as important as cultivating your business. It's probably more important as this whole thing of what got you here won't get you there. And especially, like you said, time is speeding up. Opportunities are becoming more frequent. There's huge FOMO around. Everything to do with crypto and NFDS, and we don't need that stress. Yeah, definitely. I mean, one more thing to mention. There's always going to be new technologies happening, and there's always going to be that FOMO for you. If you look for it, you don't even have to look for it. It comes at you all the time. Also, bad news, Corvette, like financial crisis, whatever. People can talk about a lot of stuff. At the end of the day, humanity survives a lot of stuff. We're going to probably survive everything that's coming out of the way, but you're going to survive anything that comes your way externally by having your internal game in place and developing your character to withstand that. You're building a shield around you. Right. And that's mental toughness. So if you're looking at how the mind works, just to understand kind of what's happiness or how to battle overwhelmed. The mind is the one that understands when you have overwhelmed. It's a concept, right? It's not a brain function. It's a concept of the mind. And so stress everything like that. It's concept of the mind. And the mind is very simple in a way that he has two functions. Two very simple functions. Exactly. As your heart has a function to pump blood, right? He draws blood in, pumps blood out. That's it like two functions. And you cannot stop your heart. Right. Just beat. You can't stop it. You can think about stopping it. You won't be able to. And also almost anything in your body, your cells act in a specific way. You have no way of stopping anything in your body. And so the same way as your mind, your mind has the function that you cannot stop, which is one to go towards pleasant activities or pleasant external stimulus. And two is to walk away and run away from or avoid unpleasant situations or stimulus. So the ones regarding we are all Masters at going towards the pleasant stimulus, right? Netflix. Netflix. Right. We walked by Pizzeria and we felt like we smell it and we were like, oh, my God, pleasant. I want that. So we really are good in going towards the pleasant. So much so that sometimes we do it even too much. Like, for instance, drinking might drink a bit too much, and then it's not nice. Actually, you get unpleasant. So we're really good for the pleasant stuff. We're actually really not good with the unpleasant. And that's exactly what we need to train our mind to do. That's mental toughness. That's training your mind. Because when Covenant hit our unpleasant part of the mind, that is like, oh, my God, unpleasant. Run away, run away. But there was nowhere to run away to. And sometimes they just don't have where to run to. Situations hit you in the most exposed, vulnerable places, and you need to prepare for that because it's going to happen again and again and again and again. Daily, weekly, monthly, yearly. Sometimes situations are going to be so tough. You feel your desk is too much for you, and a lot of people feel it's too much for them. All right? So the way to do that is to practice, practice the unpleasant, go towards it and attack it. That's mental tough. I think there's been so much in this episode that I'm going to need to go back with a pen myself. I'm probably going to cheat and use the transcription. There's so much good stuff there. If people want to connect with you, they want to go further with Sages ribbon. How can they do that? First of all, feel free to check out the YouTube of Commit first and follow me on Instagram. That's where I'm most active right now. I'm on Twitter and like almost any social platform you find sagishriver. But I would say commit first on YouTube and the podcast itself. Commit first if you're listening on Spotify or whatever. And I would say if you want to connect on Instagram, sagishriver exactly like my name says here, if you're watching the video, it's sagishrieber. And feel free to send me a DM and just kind of even take a snapshot right now of both of us here and share it on your stories. Take both of us, Bob and I, because we want to know that you got value from this. That's the most important thing. I want to know that you guys got value for this. And one thing, if you guys want to get a template to building your vision, it's how I build my vision. It has everything we talked about in Colorado. Like to getting your values. What do you value in life and how do you prioritize in a Google spreadsheet in a specific template? If you want that, just DM me and let me know you want it. Just you can write like vision. And they gave me the word vision. I'll send it to you completely free of charge. I don't have a bug for that, by the way. Not yet. I'm not that complicated, but I'm just here to help, really. And Bob, thank you so much for having me on the show. Again, just a pleasure talking to you every time. No, it's my pleasure. It's all mine. And send me your template as well. It looks really good. I'll do. That the one question I ask every guest. I didn't give you any warning of this because I forgot what's one thing you do now that you wish you'd started five years ago. One thing I do now that I wish I'd started five years ago. Well, first of all, like my nine to twelve club is something that I wish. The most important thing that I learned at the beginning of the business when I started my business is take care of me first. I just can't stress it enough. One thing that I'm doing now again, is taking more time to work on myself. That's one thing mentally and physically and not giving up like that. The second thing is that I wish to have done is build a vision. Because again, that's the thing that I work towards having a why having something I'm working towards. So having a vision. One last thing I would say is manifest more. We tend to work very hard and we're like, oh, we're just struggling. We tend to see things as struggle. Instead of focusing on what you don't have or what you want to have, stop it right away. Kill that habit. This is the worst habit you can have. And if you have negative feelings at the moment because you're short on cash or whatever, stop the negative feelings. Don't be about them, but give them a space and then send them off and bring in positive emotions and manifest what you want. So think about only what you don't, not What You Want. But think About It Already As If You have Achieved It. So You Need to visualize yourself after You Have Achieved What You Want To Get Done. And that Feeling, that Feeling after You Achieve that is What You Need to Cultivate. That's exactly the Only Thing That You Need to Cultivate the Visuals of What You Achieved After You Achieve Them and The Feeling of What You Achieved after You Achieved It. And that will make sure that You Manifest More and Attract More Things into Your Life. The best Customers you Want. Really? I attract Customers. I See it as A Core Marketing Activity For Me. I'm not Kidding. If I Need A Customer, I Go And Meditate And Visualize Me Getting the Customer. And Sometimes It Happens the Next Day and I Just Can't Stress Enough Attract More Than You Work because you can Work very Hard. Burn out. It's not The Way Things Should Be. You should Manifest and Cultivate. Nobody is Talking About It. But The Spiritual Practices Of Entrepreneurship Is What I Wish I'd Done five Years Ago. Saggy Fiber, you Have Been An Awesome Guest. That was a Fantastic thank You So Much For Coming. I Almost Guaranteed I'm Going To Ask You Again probably sometime soon would be My Pleasure. Man, really for The Listener. I hope you have Enjoyed This Show and I Just Want To Make Sure You Don't Miss More Magic Like this every week so don't forget to subscribe and if You Haven't Joined The Show Review on itunes or Spotify rating wherever you Listen To the Show would make My Day. 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